Space-Time Detective Genshi-Kun/Flint the Time Detective Episode 6: The New World and Cocolon Sub/Dub Comparison

Plot: The Space-Time Monster that controls weather, Cocolon, has been spotted in the Atlantic in 1492. He’s in the hands of Christopher Columbus, and TP Lady has her eyes set on taking over the expedition and ruling over America.

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Title Change: The New World and Cocolon is changed to Coconaut, which I assume also means;

Name Change: Cocolon is changed to Coconaut. Also, I would swear that dub name implies ‘astronaut’ more than poking at the word ‘Nautical’ but maybe that’s just me. (Also, it took me way too long to realize this was also meant to be a play on the word ‘Coconut.’)

As the kids are walking through the park, Genshi continuously chants “Friends!” over and over. In the dub, Sarah asks him why he’s so happy and he responds that it’s a beautiful day, it’s lunchtime and since it’s Friday they don’t have to worry about homework until Sunday night.

Tokio specifically says he needs an 80 to pass the Space-Time Detective exam. In the dub, they don’t mention the exact score he needs, just that his score of 35 isn’t enough.

Sora points out that it’s Tokio’s dream to join the Time Bureau. In the dub, she says if he can’t do math properly, then, when he’s a Time Detective, he might add up the years wrong and bypass Hannibal and meet a cannibal.

….*lip smack*

There’s a lot wrong with what she just said.

First of all, add up what years? You just need to know what year something is in and then go there.

Second of all, Hannibal? As in….Hannibal Lecter? The fictional character? You can’t go back in time to meet a fictional character. Unless you’re Talen, I guess.

Third, I’m pretty sure if you intended on going back in time to find Hannibal and you found a cannibal….You’d have succeeded in your goal, because Hannibal IS a cannibal (that’s even one of his nicknames – Hannibal the Cannibal.)

Fourth, even mentioning cannibals should be a no-no, but also directly referencing Silence of the Lambs?….In Flint The Time Detective? What are you smoking, Saban? That’s hardly appropriate.

Genshi originally mistakes the word ‘normal’ for meaning something to eat. In the dub, he hears Tony say ‘Goose egg’ and asks for a goose egg to eat. The dub actually makes more sense because the original makes it sound like Genshi wants to eat children (Tokio said ‘normal kids like me’) It also makes it seem like Genshi’s never heard the term ‘Normal’ which I’d assume is impossible at this point.

I get that Tokio wants to be a Space-Time Detective on his own merits, but he already basically is one considering he always goes with Genshi on his missions.

Cocolon’s name plate is removed.

Subbed:

Dubbed:

They suddenly splice in Jillian appearing on screen again right before we cut to the shot of Flint…for some reason.

Professor Yamato just tries to remember what important event happened in 1492. In the dub, Dr. Goodman asks if it’s the year Elvis walked on the moon….This man has a doctorate….

Sora just recites part of the rhyme based on Christopher Columbus (In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue…) In the dub, Sarah has to correct Goodman that it was Neil Armstrong who walked on the moon, and not in 1492. Then she remembers Christopher Columbus and mentions it, but the shot cuts off too quick so she has the end of her sentence cut off a little.

Also, yeah, this episode is about Christopher Columbus. Obviously, this was back in the day where people still hero worshiped the guy and just washed away everything bad he did while also making false or exaggerated claims about him – which still goes on pretty frequently today. It’s a little uncomfortable watching this now,

Sora says that Columbus discovered the Americas in 1492. Sarah says he discovered America. Both claims are still wrong (Not only were there indigenous people living there for many, many, many years before anyone else stepped foot on any of the Americas, so it’s impossible to say anyone ‘discovered’ them, but Leif Erikson arrived in North America nearly 500 years before Columbus did.) It should be noted that, even though they’re only saying ‘America’ in the dub, it’s clear they’re just referring to the United States – which he never set foot in at all.

Yamato doesn’t say anything after exclaiming that the kids are going off with Genshi again. In the dub, he asks them to bring him back a souvenir like a ‘Columbus World Tour’ t-shirt or a sailor’s hat. Again, this man has a doctorate.

Flint: *as he’s sinking underwater* “I got a sinking feeling!” *sigh*

They splice in a speaking shot of Flint right before they yell for the ship, but the editing is weird. He says “Well, why couldn’t she put us onboard?” but cuts off in the middle of ‘board.’ So, even though they purposely spliced in this shot to put in this unnecessary line, they didn’t put in enough of the shot to properly insert the line. Perfect work, Saban. Top Notch.

Columbus doesn’t ask who their king is in addition to their country of origin, like the dub does.

Have we gotten confirmation that they changed their country of origin to the United States? Because they’re flatout asked what country they come from, and while Genshi states it’s Tama City, Tokyo (He’s stopped before he can also say Japan), Flint says they’re from the USA.

Surprisingly, the rest of the scene goes the same either way. Columbus says he’s never heard of that country (Which makes sense, because Tokyo wasn’t known as Tokyo back then. In 1492, it would’ve been a small village called Edo.) and in the dub, since the USA doesn’t exist yet either, he also doesn’t know of their country. And in both versions they also explain that it’s a small area that probably isn’t well-known or on a map.

Why are they so shocked to see Christopher Columbus? They were transported to his exact coordinates on the ocean. Three ships picked them up. The guy looks like pretty much any depiction of Columbus. Yet when he says his name they’re all mind blown.

I like how the dub even points out how weird this is. Sarah says she’s starting to think this is Columbus, and Tony responds “Weird hat, three ships – of course it is.”

Going even further with that, they cut out the shocked reaction the kids all have to Columbus saying his name and add in a repeat shot of Sarah and Tony talking, just to have Sarah say he’s shorter than she pictured.

Columbus offers his hospitality and says they can stay on the Santa Maria but only if they work. Surprisingly, the dub has him being more of a jerk. He accuses them of being spies, but offers to let them stay anyway since he, for some reason, can’t throw them overboard.

Yeah, he’ll call for the slaughter of people, hunt down any natives who flee from him with a pack of dogs who would either bring them back or rip them apart (Sometimes eaten), maim and dismember people as punishment, enslave thousands of natives and force them to gather gold, sell children into sexual slavery, let his crew cut natives with their swords to test how sharp they are, drive natives into such terrible living conditions and terror that they were committing suicide in droves  – but he draws the line at throwing some strange kids overboard. Oh nosirree bob.

He’ll only let them stay if they submit their allegiance to the Queen Isabella and work on deck.

Due to a commercial break in the dub, they put in an extra shot of the ships so they could work in more off-screen dialogue. They also kinda break the fourth wall by someone telling someone else to stop talking in sailing cliches.

They repeat Tony sweeping in a circle.

Originally, they just give Sora more laundry. In the dub, they tell her what laundry needs to be done in cold water and which needs to be done in hot water. Saban, you are remembering what time period this is, right?

The display on Ridon isn’t flickering in the original as it is in the dub.

They insert a repeat shot of Pterry tapping the display with his beak while he’s explaining what’s wrong with it.

They remove TP Lady’s goofy smile before her fantasy.

The subs didn’t offer a translation on TP Lady’s little heart sign thing, but as far as I was able to gather, it says daitoriyo (Daitoryo), which, as you can guess, is just ‘President.’

Subbed:

Now, you’d think Saban would write ‘President’ or ‘President Petra Fina’ or something while painting over this, right?

…Nope… And I want you to guess what they wrote to replace it, because you will never, ever guess what it is. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I had to pause the video for several minutes just trying to figure out why they put what they put there.

Start guessing.

Give up?

….They wrote E=MC2

Dubbed:

…..If anyone can even begin to unravel the mystery that is what the hell that means in context to anything that is going on in this scene – or this episode even – please tell me, because my brain short-circuited trying to wrap my head around it.

They remove another shot of TP Lady’s goofy smiling.

They play the shots of Petra Fina and the masked man dancing in reverse so they gradually get further away from the camera instead of closer like it was in the original. I don’t know why.

Originally, the masked man wants to toast to TP Lady’s eyes. In the dub, he says he’s sick of holding the mask and asks her if she has any string. I thought this joke was kinda funny because I, too, was wondering why he’s holding the mask instead of wearing one that actually attaches to his face in any way.

Another shot of TP Lady’s goofy smile removed.

Originally, TP Lady’s little Space-Time Monster detector made a soft beeping noise when it was activated. In the dub, it makes a hinge-squeaking noise as the little parts on top moved back and forth. It’s just weird because it makes it seem like the device is clearly broken and Petra Fina is crazy.

The original doesn’t mention anything about their seasickness involving eating too many oysters as the dub does.

They insert an external shot of the ship right before the shot of the lantern. Just in case you forgot they were on a boat.

So, wait, Cocolon has been around since Columbus was a little boy?….Then…why did Rei send them to this exact time period to retrieve him? Wouldn’t it have made more sense and been less risky to send them to when Cocolon first appeared in the time stream rather than when Columbus was right about to do the most notable thing of his life? I don’t mean grab him before he saves Columbus, but maybe right after?

Speaking of which, why was Cocolon just randomly floating out in the middle of the ocean like that? How long was it there?

Surprisingly, this part of the episode does kinda reflect a part of Columbus’ past. He did become shipwrecked once before his expeditions to the Americas. In 1476, when Columbus was about 25, he was on a commercial ship that was attacked by the French. His ship was sunk and burned, and Columbus was forced to swim to the nearby Portuguese shore.

Also, hold the phone. They’re saying Columbus would’ve drowned when he was a kid without Cocolon. Yet, before the time stream was littered in Space-Time Monsters, Columbus still existed and his story was still the same.

Tony: “I have a feeling that this history business has a lot more comedy than we’ve been lead to believe.” Errr…..technically, he’s right, but in this circumstance, it’s more horror.

(Also, originally Tony’s line was about feeling lost when you don’t have something to guide you.)

Columbus originally says he can always continue on as long as he has Cocolon. He’s his treasure. In the dub, they make it out like he’s a bit more selfish. They make him say he doesn’t need courage, because as long as he has Coconaut, he’s a hero and he’s great. The original makes off like Cocolon’s his friend who gives him the confidence to do these things. The dub makes it seem like he’s using Coconaut as a tool to do great things so he can take all the credit.

They added a repeat shot of the ships after the commercial break for…reasons?

Mite originally chastises Dyna for saying his line first. He then proceeds to say he’s TP Lady’s number one helper. Dyna follows up by saying he’s the number two helper. In the dub, Mite yells at Dino for calling them thugs when they’re really henchmen.

Why did TP Lady stamp Cocolon’s hat? And why did that work? Is the hat actually a part of his body?

They remove the name plate saying “Bad Transformation: Waru Cocolon.”

Subbed:

Dubbed:

Name Change: Waru Cocolon is changed to Coconaut-Kon.

They put the eyecatch animation in after the group is captured. I can’t tell if there was a commercial break there, but that wasn’t where the eyecatch was originally, which was right as Dyna and Mite were about to take Cocolon from Columbus’ bed.

Kyoichiro specifically says to himself that he’s saving Sora. In the dub, he doesn’t mention Sarah.

Sora doesn’t yell up to Kyoichiro the way Sarah does to Merlock.

Name Change: Narugami Kyoichiro is changed to Merlock Holmes. Yeah, it’s very lazy and awkward. It’s supposed to be a joke because we find out later that he’s a fellow Time Detective, but he has a very clear vampire motif and blue skin, so you’d think they’d have made a name based on those factors, but nope. Just ‘hurr he’s a detective so let’s call him Sherlock Holmes’ only they were eating like cereal or something at the time so it came out ‘Merlock Holmes’ and they were like ‘eh’ and kept it.

The thing is that the wordplay on his name won’t even make sense until we learn that he’s a Time Detective, which we won’t until episode 12.

Sora originally points out that Kyoichiro disappeared, not realizing he wiped out off of the pillar due to a tidal wave. In the dub, since Sarah sees him fully and is even trying to talk to him, she witnesses Merlock wipe out and fall after throwing a dagger to her;

Sarah: “Whoa, what a nerd!” Excuse me!? The guy just saved your life, he could very well be dead due to the fall or drowning right now, and all you have to say is ‘Whoa, what a nerd’? Kindly fuck off, Sarah. Wow.

They splice in a reaction shot of Sarah right after the wave hits but right before Merlock falls.

This is kinda nitpicky, but it’s bothering me – how did Genshi smacking Oto-tan into the water make the raft shoot up and forward several hundred feet? They didn’t even bother making the strike create a massive wave or something – he just hits the water and they fly off.

Waru Cocolon can’t talk, just as his previous form can’t. In the dub, Coconaut-kon talks, which is strange because his previous form can’t communicate in anything but his name and yes or no signs.

Another piece of audio is clipped. When the second sailor says ‘Aye, glad you’re back, sir.’ the audio is cut off right in the middle of ‘sir’ so it sounds like ‘suh.’ This also isn’t a sloppily edited insert or anything – they just didn’t time it well or record the line to the proper length.

They splice in a shot of the sail tilting from earlier right before Flint slides around a second time. Ya know, in case you forgot the ship was rocking back and forth.

Has Putera been ‘fixing’ Ridon this whole time by just smacking her beak into the display?

Putera just asks Professor Yamato to send a Space-Time Monster quickly. In the dub, Pterry mentions that the food on the ship has been awful…and he says it before mentioning that their ship is sinking. I get that that’s the joke, but it also makes Pterry look like a bit of an idiot.

Yamato asks which of the Space-Time Monsters will volunteer for the mission. In the dub, he specifically sends Mosbee.

This is the first time a Space-Time Monster has been sent to help Genshi and the others with a mission. Apparently, when they’re sent after the others have already gone ahead in the time stream, the monsters go into their egg form and come out of the tail pipe of Ridon….Keep in mind, Ridon is shaped like a dinosaur…so they’re emulating it pooping out an egg. I know, I know, I’m immature, but it seems intentional so I have to note it.

They repeat a shot of Goodman talking after Mosbee goes through the time stream.

They repeat and reverse Pterry flying down and Flint talking after Mosbee frowns.

This is in both versions, but everyone is being pretty massive jerks to Mosbee for trying to help and even acting like they’re bummed they got him for backup in the first place. Yes, he messed up a little, but they’re just being assholes for no reason. All they said was ‘Help Genshi’ without context or direction, and it froze stuff, like it’s meant to do.

And, really, what Space-Time Monster did they want? Their options are kinda limited. It’s either Mosbee, the monster who can create ice, Jitterbug, who makes people dance uncontrollably, Eldora, who turns things to gold, or Talen, who has the power to transport people into storybooks.

So Flint flies overboard and Tony says “Whoa” in the most bored tone imaginable. Yeah, your friend is probably dead….Whoa. Tony must’ve been possessed by retro-Keanu Reeves for a second.

For the record, Tokio originally yelled out Genshi’s name in a very concerned tone and very loudly.

Name Change: Super Mosbee is changed to Mosbee Master.

The name plate for Super Mosbee is removed.

Subbed:

Dubbed:

Coconaut-Kon: “I’ll huff and puff and blow you away!”

Flint: “That is some bad breath!”

But…the wind isn’t his breath….???

They insert the same shot of Tony and Sarah after Columbus tells Flint to knock off Coconaut-Kon’s hat just to have Tony point out that it’s crazy to think that would work. See, Tony, this is really why you can’t be a time detective. The mark is on his hat….remove hat….remove mark.

Though, maybe he has a point because, despite the hat being removed from his head, it doesn’t change him back or pacify him. *shrug*

Why is Genshi beating the living hell out of Cocolon yelling for it to become nice again? Especially after he already got the hat off. Genshi is always about being nice to these monsters and using friendship to change them back, only fighting when he has to. Why is everyone being an asshole today?

Flint is technically a little better, but not by much. He’s yelling that he doesn’t want to hurt Coconaut, but he needs to stop the storm…so yeah, beat the hell out of him.

Okay, I have to ask, how potent is Putera’s memory erasing ability? Because, remember, Columbus met Cocolon when he was a young boy. In order for all of this to be erased…she’d have to basically erase his memories of everything up to that point, right?

Toki-G: “The important thing is a normal guy that did his best and did a fantastic job.”

Old Timer: “But Columbus is still recognized today for his courage and determination in the face of overwhelming odds.”

They insert some more shots of Old Timer to extend his scene.

Genshi’s mouth is moving way too fast for his snoring. The dub actually tries to match his breathing with the erratic animation and makes it sound like he’s hyperventilating in his sleep.

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Well…this was a thing. A very confusing and uncomfortable thing. I don’t blame the show runners for this storyline, they’re basically just parroting what they probably learned in school too, and keep in mind this show was made in 1998-99 (2000-01 in the dub) so it’s no shocker there, but still, to say this episode didn’t age well is a massive understatement.

Not but 24 hours ago (at the time of this writing; over the Fourth of July weekend) several statues of Columbus were destroyed by protesters. And while I don’t agree with destroying property like that (I think it’s much better to push through official channels to have these statues and other monuments and flags removed and either put into museums or stored away) I just think it’s a strange feeling, especially in the current state of things, knowing the real story behind Columbus in contrast to what I just watched and what I learned of Columbus when I was a kid.

I’m not sure if they still tell the same story about Columbus in elementary and middle schools as I was told when I was a kid, I’d hope it’s at least clear of the popular misconceptions (I don’t expect lower grades to be taught about the darker stuff) but it is interesting and kinda scary how much people can change a narrative for their own purposes and basically make an entire generation think a certain thing about certain people – whether for the better or worse.

I know this is a silly 90s cartoon about a time traveling detective caveman, and technically this is the point in time where he hadn’t done anything bad yet, but still – it perpetuates false information and paints the guy like he’s, at worst, slightly whiny and cowardly but still redeemed as a brave and strong captain who wound up doing great things in the end.

Did the guy have fierce determination to prove he could achieve his goal? Yes. He pretty much literally had a psychotic amount of determination to do so, basically near damning himself and his crew to death several times just to push on and see if he could find the mainland of Asia (Which is why he took so many repeat expeditions even though he was convinced until his dying days that he still reached the islands of Asia.)

Did he do a ‘fantastic job’? No. And only partly because the main point of his mission was never achieved.

He had very notable skills at sea, and he was known as being a very good navigator (Particularly a master of ‘Dead reckoning’) and admiral, but his crew was constantly either near or in mutiny and reported terrible things back to the king and queen when they returned to shore.

In between expeditions, he was stripped of his power as governor and viceroy of the newly claimed lands and was jailed in Spain because of his tyrannical ruling and vicious behavior to both natives and Spanish settlers. (Not the best first impression to someone sent to be a justice administrator to see gallows with several Spanish settlers hanging from them.)

Granted, he was released six weeks later and was still sent out on one last expedition shortly after, but he did get arrested for his actions.

You can also say Columbus had a bit of romanticism in him in regards to finding new beautiful lands, seeing animals and plants that he had never known before and working out this western route to Asia, but that’s tarnished by all of the other terrible things he talked about in his journals. Here’s a good example courtesy of Smithsonian Magazine;

“In almost the same breath, he described the Arawaks’ gentleness and innocence and then went on to assure the king and queen of Spain, “They have no arms and are all naked and without any knowledge of war, and very cowardly, so that a thousand of them would not face three. And they are also fitted to be ruled and to be set to work, to cultivate the land and to do all else that may be necessary, and you may build towns and teach them to go clothed and adopt our customs.””

And that they were “so full of love and without greed, and suitable for every purpose, that I assure your Highnesses that I believe there is no better land in the world, and they are always smiling.”

And lest we forget his intense fixation on finding lots of gold.

Technically he was also told to take dominion over whatever islands he discovered in his expedition, and he did that, so….mission accomplished there….but he even technically bungled that because Queen Isabella hated slavery and Columbus decided that a nice souvenir to bring back to Spain from his second outing was several hundred slaves. And when told by the queen to not enslave people anymore (and to treat the natives well), he still did it anyway because he found it was convenient.

Did his actions open the door for European colonization in the Americas? Yes, but 1) that very likely would’ve happened either way. With how things were progressing, the Americas would have been ‘discovered’ by Europeans very quickly anyway – it had, afterall, already been ‘discovered’ perhaps even more than once before Columbus. And 2) Whether or not that’s a truly good thing depends heavily on what lens you’re looking through.

Yes, we wouldn’t have the world/countries we have today if it wasn’t for that, but there were a lot of horrible things done to get to this point, both intentionally done (Everything I’ve already mentioned and more) and unintentionally (all the diseases brought here.)

Who really knows? The world may have been a better place if the Americas were ‘discovered’ and settled in a different manner, in a slightly different time by different people. It may also have been worse. We can’t really know for sure.

Even if you choose the rosier glasses, you still need to recognize that the guy did terrible things and was far from a hero who deserves his own holiday.

(Speaking of that, I read up a lot about Columbus for this post, but I recognize that I’m not a historian, this is a largely debated topic and I’m also a bit of an idiot, so if I got some stuff wrong here and you want to correct me about it, feel free to drop a comment down below and I’ll edit this post accordingly.)

But getting back on track for the episode as a whole, Cocolon is an interesting Space-Time Monster, and it was cool (pun not intended, but take it anyway. You’re welcome) that we got to see our first super transformation in Super Mosbee. He looks pretty cool in that form, and I look forward to more super transformations and utilizing the collected Space-Time Monsters in the future.

Tokio’s microscopic subplot is completely unresolved, though. He’s frustrated because his poor grades will probably keep him from becoming a Space-Time Detective, and at the end of the episode TP Lady (In her teacher disguise) is giving him a rough time in class and he’s still failing.

I’m still really confused about how Cocolon has fit into time for so long, and why it doesn’t affect Columbus to have what is certain to be years of memory erased, unless it’s just specifically memories of Cocolon which got erased.

Also, I don’t really understand how the story has worked if Cocolon was there the whole time. If, in the past, before they left, Cocolon was with Columbus the whole time, that means that at some point Cocolon did help Columbus find his way to the (long-ass) western sea route from Europe to Asia. Hm…Would they have even survived such a long voyage if they found the right way?

Well, this is an anime about time travel, so I guess we’re due to give Oda Nobunaga a visit with the debut of Tanegun!


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